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	<title>Comments on: Ingres memories</title>
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	<description>History of software, by somebody who lived it</description>
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		<title>By: 25 facts about Ingres, give or take a couple &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarememories.com/2005/11/14/ingres-memories/comment-page-1/#comment-36381</link>
		<dc:creator>25 facts about Ingres, give or take a couple &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] member of Ingres staff is John Smedley who has been with us since June of 1987.&#8221;  And most of Ingres&#8217; technical staff left after Ingres was acquired by CA, which occurred a few months shy of 15 years ago. Reconciling all that is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] member of Ingres staff is John Smedley who has been with us since June of 1987.&#8221;  And most of Ingres&#8217; technical staff left after Ingres was acquired by CA, which occurred a few months shy of 15 years ago. Reconciling all that is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yvonne</title>
		<link>http://www.softwarememories.com/2005/11/14/ingres-memories/comment-page-1/#comment-8479</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once had the best job ever at the beautiful 
campus at Ingres Ask computers. I was in the 
seminar department overlooking the bay, had the 
best managers ever to work with. I left after 6
months to be with my husband over seas. I always 
had regrets leaving the company for it was the 
best place to work!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once had the best job ever at the beautiful<br />
campus at Ingres Ask computers. I was in the<br />
seminar department overlooking the bay, had the<br />
best managers ever to work with. I left after 6<br />
months to be with my husband over seas. I always<br />
had regrets leaving the company for it was the<br />
best place to work!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: DBMS2 &#8212; DataBase Management System Services&#187;Blog Archive &#187; Ingres’s questionable target market</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBMS2 &#8212; DataBase Management System Services&#187;Blog Archive &#187; Ingres’s questionable target market</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 06:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Eric Lai of Computerworld interviewed Roger Burkhardt, new CEO of Ingres, and obviously did a bang-up job of asking him the tough “Who really are your target customers, and why would they buy from you?” questions. The answer, so far as I can tell, is “Large financial institutions writing new RDBMS apps that don’t need up-to-date functionality and don’t want to pay Oracle’s license fees.” Up to a point, that makes sense. Except for the “financial institutions” qualifier, it’s actually pretty obvious. I can’t imagine why any other new users would buy Ingres, which has been ever the bridesmaid, never the bride for the past 20 years. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Eric Lai of Computerworld interviewed Roger Burkhardt, new CEO of Ingres, and obviously did a bang-up job of asking him the tough “Who really are your target customers, and why would they buy from you?” questions. The answer, so far as I can tell, is “Large financial institutions writing new RDBMS apps that don’t need up-to-date functionality and don’t want to pay Oracle’s license fees.” Up to a point, that makes sense. Except for the “financial institutions” qualifier, it’s actually pretty obvious. I can’t imagine why any other new users would buy Ingres, which has been ever the bridesmaid, never the bride for the past 20 years. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DBMS2 &#8212; DataBase Management System Services&#187;Blog Archive &#187; So how robust is Ingres?</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBMS2 &#8212; DataBase Management System Services&#187;Blog Archive &#187; So how robust is Ingres?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 09:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But how stands the product? Let&#8217;s flash back a decade, to when CA bought it. Ingres was a solid general-purpose RDBMS. But it was beginning to fall behind the technology power curve, especially on the data warehousing side. (For more detail, see my Ingres history post over in the Software Memories blog.) And then product development slowed to a crawl. Tony Gaughan, who ran the product for CA before the latest move, claims that they&#8217;ve actually done a good job on advancing the product on the OLTP side, perhaps to the point of comparability with Oracle9i, and certainly ahead of MySQL 5.0. I&#8217;m inclined to believe him, after applying some reasonable discount factor for expected puffery, in part because this wasn&#8217;t a high hurdle to cross. Over the past decade, the main action in high-end DBMS product enhancement has been in data warehousing and nontabular datatypes, not in OLTP. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But how stands the product? Let&#8217;s flash back a decade, to when CA bought it. Ingres was a solid general-purpose RDBMS. But it was beginning to fall behind the technology power curve, especially on the data warehousing side. (For more detail, see my Ingres history post over in the Software Memories blog.) And then product development slowed to a crawl. Tony Gaughan, who ran the product for CA before the latest move, claims that they&#8217;ve actually done a good job on advancing the product on the OLTP side, perhaps to the point of comparability with Oracle9i, and certainly ahead of MySQL 5.0. I&#8217;m inclined to believe him, after applying some reasonable discount factor for expected puffery, in part because this wasn&#8217;t a high hurdle to cross. Over the past decade, the main action in high-end DBMS product enhancement has been in data warehousing and nontabular datatypes, not in OLTP. [...]</p>
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